Thursday, September 2, 2010

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resources defense (Blaschke-Berthold)

lecture Ute Blaschke-Berthold
Topic: ' Resources Defense '

09.03.2010 in Gelsenkirchen
Organizer: Paws Academy

After some time it was for me last time again reasonable, well prepared and presented input, which you can do something concrete as a dog owner. Very soothing, it still has deals that rely on knowledge and without attacks get along with other coaches. Thank you very much, Ute!

the subject - to defense resources should go that evening, that is: What happens in the dog when he aggressively defended something that is important to him, and how to respond appropriately as a dog owner on that?

resources are all that the dog can be important. This includes the first place, what is needed to survive their illness (eg, food, water), but also things that well-being (eg training objects - they are linked with fun and activity) and / or safety convey (eg, Location) and of course mating or social partners (other dogs and their humans). Jealousy is thus a form of defense resources.
is important to know this, that even things that appear to be of no use in our view, the dog may seem worth defending. Even leash and harness or collar can be verteidungswerte resources for the dog. Affected also "victims" of the defense resources are usually found within their own household: Children are affected more often than adults, other pets can be addressed. Outside the family usually is observed aggression towards other dogs.

Basically, the defense of resources once an all-natural behavior - it ensures the survival in nature; Animals not showing a clever ressourcenverteidigendes behavior set, by opposite fellow competitors and are thus favored in the selection. In the modern dog breed for these traits, however, is not selected at all - it does not matter. This may explain why today there are more cases of excessive and pathological defense resources. The genetic basis is participation, can be detected by means of some strains. For example, shows the U.S. strain of the English Springer Spaniel such an abnormal behavior ressourcenverteidigendes. Ultimately, the redemption of the behavior is dependent on a number of factors (general excitability, Frustration tolerance, anxiety).

A behavioral change through learning within the genetic framework is always possible, but how much can be achieved is individually very different.

Why does the dog exactly this behavior? What is his motivation?
main driver is the competitive situation, it leads to a conflict over the resource. The dog developed various strategies to resolve this conflict. These strategies can vary greatly from case to case and from dog to dog. The escalating conflict has not always - a strategy it is as well to go out of the way a dispute. Only leaves from the fact that the dog once that way chosen, and not conclude that he will always use this strategy. The chosen strategy is related to the value of the resource with the experience that the dog has made to the resource (for example, once he was able to win over by aggressive behavior, he has possibly learned that this behavior is the best ), the level of arousal, from the active reaction boundary, the behavior of competitors in the communicative abilities of the competitors and by genetic framework.

A few remarks have to - when a dog feels threatened, is very individual. Of course, this is a very negative emotion occupied. If a dog feels threatened very quickly, then his quality of life is very limited. It therefore makes sense to dogs react aggressively to explore for resources in addition to anxiety.
The active reaction boundary is also commonly referred to as "threshold". It is enshrined in certain breed standards, but this is absolutely untenable, since it is always individual and situational. Reaction boundaries are never static, there are several factors which increase or decrease - and a whole life. The main three will be mentioned: stress, pain and frustration. Stress can be triggered by a loss of structure (eg a new circadian rhythm by job change), noise (eg Construction site before the house), bad mood in the family, new dog in the area, etc. If there is pain you have to distinguish between acute and chronic. Especially the latter are in between you up from the people "forget". Frustration occurs when the behavior does not lead to the solution of the conflict and not to the satisfaction of needs. This behavior can escalate gradually, as frustration and aggression "are row-house neighbors." An example: If a dog has been through appease, the resource that it is important that man does not recognize, however, he goes away, perhaps in the next step of the resource (second strategy). It also shows no success - he growls in the next step, the frustration continued to rise and continues to rise - and then he bites.

Aggressive behavior associated with resource defense must be resources not always. It can also be defensive (ie selbstverteidigende) aggression, as when children tease the dog in his place or with toys when the dog is punished for warning behavior (eg the idiotic bowl-taking away the puppy to show that one the "dominant") or if the dog is punished in connection with the resource (eg, jump on the sofa).
Will you determine to which type of aggression is, so you have to watch the dog's behavior closely. The escalation of runs in both cases the following stages: freezing / tensing; Dodge body (via the resource), rapid eating / object taken away / shielding (depending on which resource is to it), growling, teeth showing, grab a bite. For defensive aggression by the dog runs these levels (sometimes much) faster. Unfortunately, there are also dogs that show little or no sign of this escalation, and with them the work is difficult. Shows a dog on the other hand two or more reactions from the stage order, are currently good working conditions. And of course, the longer the period before going on the snap / bite, the better can work on the problem.

Will the behavior change, one should start at the onset (ie, freezing), and pour into the situation of a marker / clicker. This "acoustic splitting" changed the situation, the dog learns the pattern, waiting for the signal. The turning away from the resource is deskalierendes behavior and thus reward "worthy". In the ideal case can be resolved soon so ressourcenverteidigende situations.

as "first aid" measure was to stop all punishment actions related to the resource-defending behavior immediately. Only once (and this is especially important if the dog has bitten once) you should run management and the dog of known triggers leave it alone. In the second step, you should remove the shutter button to prevent (if possible) and other biting (habituation to muzzle!). Both prevent the unwanted behavior provisionally until it has been replaced with desirable behavior. Through the management measures, however, this behavioral adaptation is possible at all.

The following will have to work on optimizing the desired behavior. Especially with static resources that can be well controlled (eg space) systematic desensitization is often successful. Our main concern is to reduce the level of arousal to improve (eg relaxation training) and the emotions (On counter-conditioning). The classic exercise to look like this: The approach to this resource, something good / high quality for the dog is added. There is a conditioned emotional response: The dog sees / smells the reward - that puts him in excitement and anticipation, in conjunction with the resource. The dog feels better then. This approach is proven and very effective if you proceed with small steps and short rather than long and frequent and infrequent exercise. Gradually, can be approached according to the resource further, but always only when the conditioned emotional response is seen. Whether the dog is approaching a positive light, can be for example at the Head position (high) readings, with fronds connected to a slow reduction of the tail, tongue licking the nose (as the expectation of food) and generally relaxed body posture and facial expressions.

is difficult when the dog defends items that are not associated with food or toys. These dogs invent their defense constantly evaluate resources and can thus be "unpredictable". These alternative behaviors should be practiced immediately - preferably on 'search and retrieve. The rewards should be selected as variable.

as a dog owner can also do something about it that ressourcenverteidigendes behavior is not even showing. It should be of small to replace and outputting learn. Never should resources "just so" (because you're the boss ... yes;) take away) - that inevitably leads to frustration and aggression. And also in place should the dog is not "simply" crowd out or interfere. This is especially true for children as a guide to action - here, too often their parents to not educate in an appropriate manner, which ultimately must pay for the dog, but for him this behavior extremely annoying, threatening and frustrating. You should also let the dog as do many good experiences (with matching, dispensing, retrieval) work and the frustration tolerance.
henceforth one can already Puppy legs, it's certain basic training commands that facilitate the handling of a ressourcenverteidigendem behavior. This includes an output command (build on exchange - is bearing in mind that the exchange offer must vote!), Bring a Command's items, send a command to the court go from one place. "Seat" the dog gets out of the squat posture and "waiting" improves the tolerance of frustration.

Ute would inhibit a resource-defending dog never aversive, because he learns that no good emanates from its people, which in turn can trigger defensive aggression. In the first management could inhibit the dishes handle, but basically one must be aware that can be achieved by inhibiting no capacity to deal with. Nature knows no vacuum - if a behavior is suppressed, another comes behind it. In this respect, this reaction should not be here.

Still it was a book on Tip: Ute recommend Jean Donaldson: "Mine." (To order via www.laserdogs.de or Pia relate to).

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Bavaria does some things differently, and the inclusion. For the rest of the world is clear: inclusion means to separate children with special needs not only of their peers, but to inform all together. The Bavarian Minister of Culture speaks of "inclusion through cooperation", meaning: apart sort first, and then - perhaps - teach together again. The UN Convention for people with disabilities, which Germany signed in 2009 confessed to every person a right to inclusive education. This can not escape Bavaria. The Cabinet has recently submitted a concept (item 2 press release), which the education minister will soon explain the associations. That there should come to controversy is to be seen, for example at the position of the Bavarian teachers and teachers association .

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When Education Monitor 2010 is Bayern back to 4th place, behind Saxony, Thuringia and Baden-Wuerttemberg. Since 2004, stands the Institute of German Economy in Cologne for the Initiative New Social Market Economy Education data from 16 countries. And divides the countries then, as they should improve their schools, so that the economy grows. This time the IW examined specifically, how far better funding of education has a positive effect on output of the education system ", that is: Make more money smart? The money alone, according to the researchers, it does not. Combined with efforts for better teaching brings money but much more than no money.

Monday, August 16, 2010

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motivation and motivational techniques (T. Baumann)

Beat him to death, the dog! He is a critic! "
Goethe

Thomas Baumann can comment here, because the feature is turned off - but I think his guestbook entry is here because it refers to my report to his paper refers to (see below). So I place it here now anticipate, as a kind of reply .

I repudiate my hand against the assumption that they have given knowingly false statements.
I belong to any political group of the "German dogs being", but am just a critical dog owner and customer. I concede that some of my statements are harsh in the text - I should have taken it and you hurt Mr. Baumann, I apologize. wrote


Thomas Baumann from Berlin on 30.11.2010 at 14:10 clock following the guestbook:

Hello,

experts have to accept, in various forums irrelevant and polemical to be attacked. This
live it plain and simple.
So if someone like an evening lecture by me in Brittany Gunther such one-sided and polemical is beyond doubt, he has the right to do so, although it is very irresponsible acts.
The problem, however: They lie to the readers about my statements made. I have never said at a seminar that other coaches or professionals were emotionally cruel to the dogs. I have never said that the matter was explained Udo me with the dominance that I knew long before we met. I have never said at a seminar, every dog would take the booty.
never ... and so on. The abundance of other alleged statements by me beyond the frame. Who can argue only
polemical, to do that, but obviously whoever knowingly misrepresentation of my comments published on the Internet must be able to live with the consequences.
you run the most unfair kind of denunciation, and that's what hurts the dog being in Germany for many years. Every educated reader will recognize the low motives of their actions clearly. Especially as the other seminar participants is anything but "Schenkelklopfer" are. These statements are consistently discredit and provide useful data on the motivation of the author.

In this sense
friendly greetings

Thomas Baumann


lecture by Thomas Baumann

topic: ' motivation and motivational techniques'
16/08/2010 in Remscheid
Organizer: Animal Time

In this case, I must first explain what I was ever driven in this event: The sheer curiosity! :) I knew that I Thomas Baumann's approach to dog training is not because I got his book " ... so that we understand the education of the family dog ." Rise to mind, but I like to use the opportunity to make me a picture of the person himself, if I can 'catch' in the vicinity. Something you will eventually content always with you, even if it's just a realization of how we should make it any better. ; D

What I liked Mr Baumann in the run all right, is the searching for objects , this was offered in the next two days include a seminar, I was 200 € registration fee absolutely too expensive, but I was after the evening lecture, glad not to have signed up. I think the DVD , which appears in September on, you can acquire the most important thing to do so. And it will end all parties make more fun and so is the competition version, which has developed from it, for our team anyway the question. Of course is the original, nothing new - but as a former police dog trainer Baumann naturally knows the intricacies and the structure of the object looking good. I think we must recognize it some day when someone has something already prepared so well known and proven again that it opens up a wider audience. ;))

The presentation should now go to "Motivation and motivational techniques." Actually a fascinating subject. My expectations as listeners: interesting to read about what motivations a dog brings on its own, how can I succeed as a holder to use them or guide them in desired paths, and also very important in view of the "techniques" - how can succeed to motivate dogs to a certain behavior, do not show on its own readiness to do? I believe Thomas Baumann in the course of the evening trying on his way to give an answer to some of these questions ... Others presented themselves to him - I fear - not at all.

Well, from the bidding was to read, how to tackle it, according to Thomas Baumann NOT:
MOTIVATION is often equated in the art of positive reinforcement by food or toys. But the currently prevailing treats and toy craze in dog clubs and dog schools leaves much negative marks. The dog owner is unconscious to the dealer and his dog to the addict. If one dealer of the "stuff" but as are many dogs not ready for communication. Then let the dog owners often literally on the left. The apparently excellent and supposedly harmonious balanced team is "unmasked" and important social bond elements remain on track.
He said that night on several occasions he was "not dogmatic" and it were up to him (as opposed to other coaches - under position ) only the "best interests of the dog" - to be honest, I find it such a populist platitudes, and to such silly, completely unnecessary. Unfortunately, it was
then go in exactly this style:

problem dog behavior have increased in recent years steadily and enormously, his observation. Dog owners are now for the most part "social Legastehniker" completely unable to communicate properly with the dog. Instead of social interaction there is only the "hand in his pocket" (for treats) and a hochsäuselndes "Supi! Fine!" (Imitating the same a few times by Baumann - the first leg of the evening beater!). Both were, however, the completely wrong way to deal with dogs.

Two areas he has also identified as the cause for the increase in "problem dogs": First, the often badly run "puppy play lessons" - puppies learn social skills, Baumann said, not by peers, but of adult dogs. Social skills have something to do with "personal space and respect." Therefore, a good puppy group always adult dogs have it. This is not the case, then "caused a visit to a puppy group later in the adult dog intraspecific aggression." And about 80% of all "problem dogs" showed exactly this. The second problem area, he made the trend of the multi-dog. This is but "complicated" and the holders often overwhelmed. In the end, would be common: "In the dozen snappy!" Hahaha ... The second leg knocker of the evening. Although people actually just laughed at himself, because of demand, who in the room that are more than one dog, stretched three-quarters of the arms upward. * Flute *

After this introduction, it was the real theme of the evening: "motif" is by definition from the dictionary of the "motive"; of motivation is defined as "behavior-determining factors. The "dog phenotype is influenced by its" genetic disposition "and" influences from the environment / character.

More was to not to say the opinion Baumann. This would be described as superficial, yet flattered. For me this is not a viable working definition, it shows the audience at all the motivational conflict that emerges in the dog. Who is intense will incorporate time in the biological / psychological concepts (and that is what we would have used), found on this page you out. Short and concise and summarized in a chart, you find appealing here to only the most important thing. And would have made this motivation concept as a basis, then one would also have to take whether it is it useful to work in the extrinsic motivation by force what Bowman has provided the following presentation so quiet in silence for granted. That he considers rewards to be useful, he has made clear in the announcement. Throughout the presentation he has of course repeatedly emphasized that he views with treats or play reward work - he is "not dogmatic," but ...
If you define so lax, then quickly gets the impression (at least in some critical audience) that someone is something still not right and not thought through to the end has, but essentially "just so powerful - with the lecture, with of motivation, with the dogs ...

But further in the text. For Bauman, there are now in the dog "social, yield-related and food-related motivation schemes". These three areas should be examined in more detail. I give this now just so again - I think it does not all have to make sense and you do not have all of it ... Understand , P

Social motivation
Here Baumann difference between the first "request model" and the "model" of the dog. The request model is the focus of the dog facing inside (standing on the film said: "self-determined, self motivated and inwardly directed behavior") If, in the model, the focus is outward directed ("expanding practices to the wider environment directed behavior "). Here there are also breed specifics. Typical representatives of the Dog "model" are as Labrador and Beagle. One would even recognize the fact that their owners could recognize only to its rear part. (3 Schenkelklopfer of the evening). Yes.
over the body and spoken language man can be attractive to the dog. Again, he has again used the dictionary, 'attractive' means being 'attractive' and 'exceptional'. The prerequisite is that you seem so "social security". There should be no "monotony" in the interaction with the dog, not a "stereotype" because that was "deadening" and "boring". He can speak in this context like "with social communication killers saturation guarantee" of. An example is precisely the said "awesome! Fine!" (4th Schenkelklopfer of the evening). Attractiveness in the body language to reach "distance" of and "magnetize". That will not get bored. One must also "initiate program change" always, "take distance" and "reform transmitter-receiver principle" that. In short, the dog should be directed to the people, not vice versa, and always have limits shown.

Small Question: We actually motivate the dog to? And if so, why? Well, on with the text ...

spoken language will be used appropriately. Whether we speak in high, medium or low voice frequency depended on the individual dog. Then one could anraunzen a Rottweiler deep calm: "Do me, Dicker" (5 Schenkelklopfer).
was important but also the variety. "Male Dog handlers "have often afraid to speak in a high voice. Is this" whisper "or" hissing "is an alternative.

And because it is precisely the arrivals, the dog and human personality has to be considered appropriately, of which he very much appreciated Adam Miklosi, which is "soon, with me in Berlin to host" properly formulated ". needs a good dog trainer variety and flexibility," And therefore one should just "not dogmatic", and he was also not everything had its correction.. But there was in the dog scene in "cult-like tendencies" who would approach went with a "healing world-idea" to the cause. Ultimately, this contributes to the Dogs be mentally cruel. And even if he sometimes bumpy agiere, if only for good and for the good of the dog that he is always the primary objective would be to the heart, the other not.

after this digression we come back to the topic. "Distance training" is also an important part in training in social motivation. Lunging would turn this perfectly, because it can thus be "communication, guidance entitled, distance control, utilization, and social bonding" exercise. He referred in this context to explicitly refer to the released DVDs on the market. Pia Gröning work purely positive - "it can make it that way, if you will." However, he sees more of its intersection Approach with that of DVD HTS why "they" (?, I-we-Who?) Would always recommend this.

Well, to establish "deep social ties," also designed by him "La-Ko-Ko" is training . The abbreviations stand for "slowness, concentration and coordination." Especially the aspect of touch, of pressing out is a very important there. Intuitively, he had always done this correctly. Prof. Udo Gansloßer he had only explained much later, which expire at the physical processes are involved in the body of the dog: the distribution of the bonding hormone oxytocin become the adrenaline and cortisol levels reduced, and thus Stress and aggression reduced. Tellington Touch is also highly recommended for this purpose and a fantastic method.

yes I found that hormones, their effect and the impact on the motivation of the dog are also a fascinating subject and actually had to be addressed in more detail ... Maybe after the next chat with Udo? ;)
was also the way of him (or was it Miklosi - The names are both on the evening fell again and again ... decorate probably good;?.)) The thing with the dominant states, which are then yes but not so " with Alpha and so is ...

We had arrived at any rate already at the second "form of motivation":

Spiel-/Beute-Motivation
have this dog as a condition of a particular genetic predisposition. Every dog wants to go and loot. It was important to "keep balance" between the "social component" and the "prey aspect. This would require the "social background" to be created. The man must "keep in the game's social appeal" in each case. The classic ball-junkies who always repeat the act itself would have, that no social bond with their people, this is interchangeable. A ball junkie is ultimately a "drug addicts", the relationship to its holder is comparable with the "between junkie and dealer:" He was not a "social partners", "exchangeable" and without any "social Linkage ".

past he himself had made the mistake of training with toys as a reward. This is incorrect, since the expectations on the toy, the excitement level in the dog climb too high. This" inhibits learning. "Better it is therefore , lined form, especially with the Futtertube he had this good experience, as they rejoice in almost all dogs extremely popular

Playing loot is it noted that it could lead to fatigue and that of 'action-specific. "and" charming specific physique and psyche. "At first the dog from was" no longer continue in the position. All that follows is therefore "de-motivating." In the latter is "less is more", the dog signaled "I do not want to!" . ... !? ...
was important to do it in any case before the saturation a break. So if the dog is currently in the "performance zone" is located (eg in the middle of the track) and play shows, take a break. Breaks in the "start-up and saturation zone" are however very demotivating for the dogs.

And hush, hush - even the speakers break was imminent - at the third "form of motivation":


food

Hand feeding is a good way to rebuild a relationship with the people if this "is broken". ANY dog take treats - in the end it was just a "question of building". More specifically, he was not here.

The feed bag was an "elemental bridge member to improve the social fabric." However, it is important to note that one uses before feeding it into something "social", "communication is based." And one should not always be food - this increases the attractiveness! I won!
that is of "Motivation": "Distance creates social ties!"

man had, we start times defines the term clean, it would - I'm sure - even the speakers at the end was quite clear, there was at first the food and thus a half-hour break. Opportunity to read into his books or the flyers to their dogs Foundation.

He then pointed to the three forms of motivation "or video sequences.

stop stop! First of all, still advertised for the Pet Group and turned particularly to the present dog trainer: "We should be certified but there ( Pet Group Quality Seal ). What a view on this website are acid regurgitates as consumers: no transparency on what and how accurately "rated" is. Not disclose the criteria or the evaluation process: What's so hide!

Now for the video clips: Honestly, all of which were quite banal and again, I would not have the Term "motivation", as I understand him to, in connection ... The first was a rather "independent" Beagle confused by his keeper, because it is no longer based on the dog, but went their own ways. Then there was a dog of his keeper, "distressed," she leapt - this is "cured" by knee-blocking and use of body language behavior like this. Then there was a video sequence for the conditioning of the feed bag at a bad dog uncertain. Baumann has here "shaped arc" without Clickereinsatz. Can you even make "very dogmatic" sometimes so ...

If the dog becomes independent with the feed bag, rather than providing this, it works on the 3-5m line Baumann and pulls the dog approached them. Before the dog gets something out of the bag will, of course, a "social action" takes place: The dog is "stroked". When the feed bag work should be "run empty" time and again once the dog to, interpret that no bags or position it so that it can not find it, because "failure is performance enhancing." Yes, we know this all still out of school ... First time such a hefty six-right has yet to put the fun's learning. ; D Oh, sorry - I digress ... and humanize The dog's motivation, of course! ;) Is also possible that he has something here confused with the variable gain - I know not, however, was also at this time, not more motivated to explore it ...

also something nice about motivation at Longierkreis: demand from the public (justifiably, for how to "motivate" (), had not we heard!): "Yes, and what I do now, if the dog on circuit will not rotate? " - It's simple: We are working with a lead rope and pulse - and we should be there can not be persuaded that because something could happen to the cervical spine. The voice is not everything. The dog had huge muscles supporting the neck. This "dogmatic deluded" people in the dog scene, but always claimed otherwise, but in a recent issue the magazine "The dog" had established an animal physiotherapist, how harmful once a harness for the back spine is. It was argued that the "completely non-dogmatic" and it'll stop at the dog and the situation to what we would recommend. He
any event have each dog on Longierkreis've got it to work. Well, there once was this Bull Terrier, who was a little stubborn. "But after 40 yards had then noticed that it is not on nipples can run." The 6th Schenkelklopfer of the evening. I felt really hard now. I share with my dog that is a weakness: Lack of impulse control. * Flute *

But it went so well to the end. Finally came then briefly the language to the target search (ZOS). This is as acceptable as "relaxed, focused work," especially for the "pseudo-hunters among the dogs. And these were the vast majority of the hunting dogs. There are few "real hunters", who acted not out of boredom and this could be "without aversive stimuli," do not stop anyway. "Mice dig" was the way "no hunting" because the size of the prey, "too small" is. On demand, from start point because then the 'right' hunting, Baumann said that this was "individually different and depended on the size ratio dog / prey. Aha. After all, he made this very interesting and I could not new remarks by pointing out that he hunting dogs 'not treated'.
ZOS is the way, only about "motivation", not "pressure". Oh. Well, I can see it on the DVD.

Then there was a sequence that I took for both the image as well as of the most revealing comment of the evening. It showed Thomas Baumann, even with a 12-year Zerrspiel with his German shepherd. Bowman tried to show how one of the "good game" to give variety and "unpredictable" for the dog must stay here. It must always be socializing, with caressing and touching, making them the "social backgrounds" guarantees. - The Amazing thing about the pictures: The body language of this dog, his facial expression betrayed that he had just a little: Namely fun.
Since stress was evident discomfort with touch, but joy? - So shall it be?

Then said Thomas Baumann also that drawing and Zerrspiele in a "healthy dog-human relationship" are not a problem, but when you "run the dog in conflict situations, not quiet and safe", could then should be "not "Zerrspiele organize, because you then stand as a man to the dog was" too far down in the hierarchy.

So, let's face it: Worse you can not discredit a professional trainer. But surely that is still the dog in the head space from the 80's. Obviously, arriving at the surface means anything Gansloßer & Co., that now see things differently actually necessary because new research results are there, but really penetrated the consciousness there is nothing - and certainly nothing to reassess their own role and their own behavior would have resulted. For the same goes for the "new" training methods. There really does
"enlightenment" in the Kantian sense hardship education! Serve up your mind!

I hope it is not just struck me that the self-imposed label "non-dogmatic!" in principle, for otherwise as a jelly-holding is not to (to) be at hand. In between are statements that reflect the spirit of the times that were 'modern', it was also quite time to time we support it, but the plate beneath the base of it all is still the ol Komissgeschirr. And because now is transparent jelly time, it seems through again and again.

more substance ... That's it!
least I did not mean it tasted.

Who wants to be really well informed about "motivation" in the dog, which was "made fine" to 12.90 euros in the book Sabine Winkler put ( Sample ). Since the issue is pervasive and heart and brain treated.


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